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Re: READ ME - FOR NEW LINPUS LINUX USERS

Postby Grim Squeaker » Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:44 pm

Fuerst wrote:what frustrates me, however, is the fact, that despite all those years, this system Linux has even more become a secret weapon for people who like to PLAY with a computer and not work.

At a time when windows has finally managed to become stable and pretty user friendly, Linux seems more and more to turn into a little game for people who like to waste time just on getting the machine running at all.

I still will give it a try but am on the verge of getting rid of it, and I must blame also Acer for it, who are selling a machine in 2008 WITHOUT Skype software and WITHOUT a working and installed driver for HSDPA/UMTS modems. It really is a scandal and a shame.


Your reasoning is flawed, The Aspire One is sold as a netbook with an extremely simple interface to do basic things - like basic emailreading, basic officework and some basic games. It is sold to be portable. It does all those things very well using linpus linux.

It is not intended to do all kinds of fancy extra things. Of course we *are* going to make it do those anyway - but that is exactly because we are the type that likes to toy with the little thingy - for which linux is far more suitable than windows.

If you aren't this type of person, you should have either bought a device that did what you wanted without tweaking or stop expecting that the One can do things it was not sold for without doing some work. Complaining that your car will not fly like an airplane after all is quite silly ;)
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Re: READ ME - FOR NEW LINPUS LINUX USERS

Postby cpchan » Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:02 am

Hello all:

NB: Please don't take this as flame, but as some constructive criticism.

Just got my Aspire One a week ago and love it to bits. The default interface is limited, but it is well done for a newbie/grandma situation (I have since changed mine to Window Maker). This was my initial thought until I took a look at the internals. The default configuration is a security nightmare- who ever did the init system needs to be shot. The Aspire One boots in to XFCE4 via auto-login to the "user" account on virtual console 1 (X is on 2) and calling startxfce4 in /home/user/.bash.profile, If you examine the xfce init scripts you will find such strange things as starting system services via sudo: (by calling /etc/rc.d/slim/nowait.sh from /etc/xdg/autostart/services/no wait.desktop):

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#Move from /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc,Rain @ 08/04/08.
/usr/bin/add_driver.sh
sudo /etc/init.d/network start
sudo /etc/init.d/netfs start
sudo /etc/init.d/udev-post start
#sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start
#sudo /etc/init.d/nasd start
sudo /etc/init.d/ConsoleKit start
#sudo /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon start
sudo /etc/init.d/cups start
sudo /etc/init.d/wpa_supplicant start
sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager start
sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManagerDispatcher start
sudo /etc/init.d/crond start


Now this is possible because the account "user" is in the "wheel" group:

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wheel::10:root,user


and the "wheel" group can run anything via sudo with no root password:

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## Allows people in group wheel to run all commands
%wheel ALL=(ALL)       ALL

## Same thing without a password
%wheel ALL=(ALL)       NOPASSWD: ALL


So even if one set a "root" password it is of no use.

In order to secure the set up, the system services in nowait.sh must be move to either rc.local (minus the sudo) or started the proper System V way in runlevel 5. Also, "user" must be taken out of the group "wheel". In order for the account "user" to have access to all hardware, one must add:

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           <match user="500">
             <return result="yes"/>
           </match>



to /etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf

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Re: READ ME - FOR NEW LINPUS LINUX USERS

Postby stevemid » Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:19 am

Hi: I am not able to get into advanced mode per the various posts.
When I open a terminal and type xfce-setting-show I get this back:
bash: xfce-settings-show: command not found.

When I do a ps -all I see several processes running such as:
xfce4-panel
xfce4-session

So when I try xfce4 -setting -show I still get
bash: xfce4: command not found.

I thought this might be a permissions thing since I had set up a user password , initially, but had not been asked to login with it. So I tried:
sudo xfce4-setting-show and I get back
sudo: xfce4-setting-show: command not found.
audit_log_user_command (): Connection refused

Any suggestions?
Last edited by stevemid on Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:37 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: READ ME - FOR NEW LINPUS LINUX USERS

Postby cpchan » Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:30 am

stevemid wrote:Hi: I am not able to get into advanced mode per the various posts.
When I open a terminal and type xfce -setting -show I get this back:
bash: xfce: command not found.


There are no spaces. "xfce-setting-show" is the name of the program (control panel for XFCE).
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Re: READ ME - FOR NEW LINPUS LINUX USERS

Postby stevemid » Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:31 am

thank you cpchan;
I just tried as in: xfce-settings-show
I still get this:
bash: xfce-settings-show: command not found
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Re: READ ME - FOR NEW LINPUS LINUX USERS

Postby cpchan » Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:34 am

stevemid wrote:bash: xfce-settings-show: command not found


You have an extra "s". The command is actually "xfce-setting-show"
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Re: READ ME - FOR NEW LINPUS LINUX USERS

Postby stevemid » Sat Sep 27, 2008 4:38 am

cpchan;
I was adding an extra 's' to setting. Thank you for your patience. And thank you for your help. I feel so stupid taking up the forum's time with such lazy errors
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Re: READ ME - FOR NEW LINPUS LINUX USERS

Postby cpchan » Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:34 am

stevemid wrote:I was adding an extra 's' to setting. Thank you for your patience. And thank you for your help. I feel so stupid taking up the forum's time with such lazy errors


No, problem. In case you don't know, bash have a completion feature. Just type in part of the command and press "tab", if it can complete part or all of the command (as long as it is on your path) it will do so. If there is more than one possibilities, you can see list by pressing "tab" twice.
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Re: READ ME - FOR NEW LINPUS LINUX USERS

Postby aaparkr » Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:44 am

Fuerst wrote:HI, BEFORE YOU CONTINUE READING: I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SOLVE THE BIG MODEM PROBLEM THANKS TO VALUABLE ADVISE GIVEN BY MEMBERS OF THIS AND ONE GERMAN LINUX-FORUM
THANKS!!

Hallo King,
thank you for all the work and time you put into that site here.

what frustrates me, however, is the fact, that despite all those years, this system Linux has even more become a secret weapon for people who like to PLAY with a computer and not work.

At a time when windows has finally managed to become stable and pretty user friendly, Linux seems more and more to turn into a little game for people who like to waste time just on getting the machine running at all.

I still will give it a try but am on the verge of getting rid of it, and I must blame also Acer for it, who are selling a machine in 2008 WITHOUT Skype software and WITHOUT a working and installed driver for HSDPA/UMTS modems. It really is a scandal and a shame.

Don't get me wrong: I really love that little computer, although the touch-pad is not at all ideal.

If it only had a reasonably well functioning software on it

kind regards
Christian

My unit cost $330.00 US and was touted as a way to check email and access the internet. I bought it as a replacement for a Palm product. I don't care about Skype - although I believe there is a you-tube video explaining how they installed Skype. Sorry. I don't have access to a HSDPA/UMTS modem, but for a PDA replacement, this device has been more than adequate. It has its limitations, but a scandal?

GNU Chess is formidable. The browser and e-mail are both capable and Open office has been a great office suite for myneeds.
I admit I do enjoy getting linux software to work independent of Microsoft's products.

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Re: READ ME - FOR NEW LINPUS LINUX USERS

Postby SlashBoyz » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:52 am

Hi guys

I new with this Linpus Linux

I just bought new acer aspire 4930 with linux linpus on it...But i just cant understand how to operate with this OS...After some loading screen with some data read....It come on with some command ask me to complete a license...Well could someone help me with this matter.. :oops:
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